Episode 6

S11 Ep6 Good with Money: Debt

In Episode 6 of this ‘Good with Money’ season, Simon and Bex discuss how we should navigate the issue of debt on our money journey.

Some key points of interest covered in this episode include the following:

  • Simon starts off by explaining why debt is a relevant and important topic for all of us. [00:33]
  • Simon talks about ‘good debt’ and ‘bad debt’, highlighting the importance of being able to distinguish between our ‘needs’ and our ‘wants’. [03:29]
  • Another important skill is to be able to discern between ‘manageable debt’ and ‘unmanageable debt’, and to organise our financial affairs accordingly. [05:43]
  • When reviewing what the Bible says about debt, Bex and Simon comment on the following verses: Romans 13.7-8, ‘Give to everyone what you owe them: if you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honour, then honour. Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another.’; Matthew 5.42, ‘Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.’; Matthew 6.12, ‘And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.’; Proverbs 22.7, ‘The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is slave to the lender.’ [08:16]
  • Simon explores the various ways that we can get into debt and highlights behaviours (including distinguishing between ‘needs’ and ‘wants’ and talking to others about our spending habits) that can help us to steer away from unmanageable debt. [11:30]
  • Setting our own expectations for expenditure or articulating our budgetary boundaries to others (eg through ‘loud budgeting’) can also be helpful ways of putting sensible limits on what we spend. [16:59] Bex draws attention to previous podcast topics dealing with this area: Season 8 Ep9: Top 10 Money Tips for Teenagers with Dave Hall, Youth Pastor (‘loud budgeting’ at 25 mins 26 secs); Season 4: Talking About Money; and Season 2 Bonus Episode 2: Press 'Reset' on Some of our Major Expenses. [18:05]
  • In response to a question from Bex, Simon explains how the concept of delayed gratification – deliberately waiting until costs have been covered before enjoying something – can help us not only to spend within our means but also to gain pleasure from the anticipation of looking forward to something that has been paid for. [18:42]
  • In his closing comments, Simon speaks about how we can be good with money and do good with money when dealing with the topic of debt. [21:10] He also mentions ‘Christians Against Poverty’ and ‘Citizens Advice Scotland’ as two highly respected organisations that can provide assistance to individuals struggling with unmanageable debt. [22:18]
  • Wrapping up the episode, Bex draws attention to previous podcast episodes about ‘Debt’. In particular, the content covered in Episodes 6 and 7 of Season 1 and Season 7 Episode 3 could provide some additional useful listening material. [24:21]
  • Next week’s episode will focus on the topic of ‘Insurance’.

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Conversations about faith and finance with Chartered Financial Planner of the Year, Simon Glazier

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Simon Glazier

Simon is a forty(something), average height, mostly bald, Christian, husband, father of three, bad taste in fashion, movie-loving, not-very-musical-but-likes-to-sing, outdoor type, board-game playing, dancing, acting (would love to get back into amateur dramatics), kind of guy.

He also happens to be a very experienced, qualified and award-winning Financial Planner (and not just any award - the UK Chartered Financial Planner of the Year Award!).

After 20+ years in the finance profession and having worked for one of Aberdeen and the UK’s best financial planning firms (they also won awards...) he started Stewardship Wealth on the 1st April 2018. His goal is to build a business that would delight clients, gather a team of fun to work with people, and raise money for charity, in particular the Church he is a part of. He has committed to giving away at least 10% of all the income of the business to charity, even before he pays himself!

He's been part of a growing Aberdeenshire church for 25+ years, during which time he as acted, sung, played the tambourine (sad, but true), served in and helped lead the children's ministry, helped run several Marriage Courses, Parenting Courses and Money Courses, been a Treasurer and Trustee for over 13 years and has helped lead a small group based bible study for as long as he can remember.

If you’re ever up for a deep and meaningful conversation about faith and finance...or a strategy based board game...then he’s your man.

P.S. He also has a collection of over 60 Monopoly Board Games, owns a Bowler Hat and once represented England in the World Folkdance Festival as a Morris Dancer...!
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Bex Elder

Bex Elder is a freelance translator and writer based in the North East of Scotland. While Bex is by no means a financial expert (unlike her more knowledgeable co-host), her love of a good chat, and sometimes debate, led her into podcasting. Bex splits her working hours between her own business and working a day a week for her local church as the Assistant Youth Pastor. Bex loves running, getting lost in a good book, drinking copious amounts of tea and never says no to a macaron.