Episode 7

Staffing and Other Business Factors that Affect the Finances of Churches and Charities

In Episode 7 of this season on ‘Making Things Happen: Churches, Charities and Money’, Simon and Bex discuss approaches that charities and churches can take to dealing with staffing and other business factors that affect their finances.

Some key points of interest covered in this episode include the following:

  • Bex starts off the discussion by asking Simon whether all charities and churches need ‘staff’ [00:50] and then goes on to enquire about essential personnel, such as trustees, for a charity. (01:51)
  • Simon explains that the nature and vision of a charity will determine if, and when, it should start employing staff. [05:01]
  • Simon talks about the advantages for some charities of adopting selected elements of a business organisational structure [06:38] and follows up by outlining key principles that should underpin the approach of a charity that has decided to operate along the lines of a not-for-profit business. [08:41]
  • When it comes to employing staff, Simon notes that it can be a complex area to navigate – not least because there are legal requirements and regulatory policies that need to be observed – and therefore it can be a moment in time when it can be very helpful to enlist some expert assistance. [10:38]
  • When asked about contracts, Simon explains the circumstances under which a temporary contract can be appropriate and also highlights the importance of good communication in relation to contracts in general. [12:43]
  • Simon shares some thoughts about approaches that can be taken in connection with the important task of making decisions regarding appropriate levels of remuneration for staff. [14:17]
  • Once staff have been employed, there is an onus on a charity or church to put in place appropriate communication, review, appraisal, training and contract processes. [17:18]
  • Given the complex and ever-changing nature of employment regulations and tax arrangements, it quickly becomes highly desirable to have access to an accountant, payroll services, HR personnel etc. [19:33]
  • When staffing appointments don’t work out for whatever reason, Simon would recommend taking professional advice (eg from an HR expert or solicitor) as it is very important to adhere to legal and other processes in such situations. [20:49] Once again, the significant role of the trustees is highlighted as they are often to the fore when it comes to ensuring that issues are dealt with in the best and most professional manner possible. [23:59]
  • The next episode in this season will focus on ways in which faith can be put before finance so that vision is turned into provision! [24:31]

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Conversations about faith and finance with Chartered Financial Planner of the Year, Simon Glazier

About your hosts

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Simon Glazier

Simon is a forty(something), average height, mostly bald, Christian, husband, father of three, bad taste in fashion, movie-loving, not-very-musical-but-likes-to-sing, outdoor type, board-game playing, dancing, acting (would love to get back into amateur dramatics), kind of guy.

He also happens to be a very experienced, qualified and award-winning Financial Planner (and not just any award - the UK Chartered Financial Planner of the Year Award!).

After 20+ years in the finance profession and having worked for one of Aberdeen and the UK’s best financial planning firms (they also won awards...) he started Stewardship Wealth on the 1st April 2018. His goal is to build a business that would delight clients, gather a team of fun to work with people, and raise money for charity, in particular the Church he is a part of. He has committed to giving away at least 10% of all the income of the business to charity, even before he pays himself!

He's been part of a growing Aberdeenshire church for 25+ years, during which time he as acted, sung, played the tambourine (sad, but true), served in and helped lead the children's ministry, helped run several Marriage Courses, Parenting Courses and Money Courses, been a Treasurer and Trustee for over 13 years and has helped lead a small group based bible study for as long as he can remember.

If you’re ever up for a deep and meaningful conversation about faith and finance...or a strategy based board game...then he’s your man.

P.S. He also has a collection of over 60 Monopoly Board Games, owns a Bowler Hat and once represented England in the World Folkdance Festival as a Morris Dancer...!
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Bex Elder

Bex Elder is a freelance translator and writer based in the North East of Scotland. While Bex is by no means a financial expert (unlike her more knowledgeable co-host), her love of a good chat, and sometimes debate, led her into podcasting. Bex splits her working hours between her own business and working a day a week for her local church as the Assistant Youth Pastor. Bex loves running, getting lost in a good book, drinking copious amounts of tea and never says no to a macaron.